Breathing bags?

by Sandman1969 Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:56 pm

Anyone have any experience or thoughts on these??
http://www.kordon.com/kordon/products/aquarium-pond-accessories-2/breathing-bags#suppliers!

by **CAAIndie** Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:35 pm

I know many members have used these bags quite successfully. I believe they are discontinued or no longer in production (someone can correct me if I'm wrong), but they are available at CanadianAquariumConnection.com

by GaryE Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:59 pm

Fantastic things for shipping, as they take less space, and the fish are not nearly as stressed. I get mine from CAC.

by Sandman1969 Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:07 pm

I am trying to find the best way to transport my fish, when the time comes, to come to Florida with me when I move there to meet up with my fiance that just moved there today.

by GaryE Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:18 am

You will have serious legal issues. They'll cost you close to $200 in permits. You can't really use breathers to transport Plecos, which destroy them, and I doubt breathers are big enough for your other fish.

Get ready for some serious border bureaucracy...

by alexmtl Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:44 am

I frequently use breather bags. They are great for small fish transport over several days, even weeks. The problem is that because of their plastic composition they are more of a delicate membrane; even water will evaporate through them.

Spiny fish are not suited for breather bags. With such a short transit better off with heavy mil thickness plastic bags.

As for transport into the US, there is a lot to consider. You may want to begin researching the importation into the US, starting with the FDA. As GaryE mentioned, permits will be involved. Best of luck

by Sandman1969 Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:12 am

Gary & Alex, I had talked to the U.S. Fish & Wildlife service and they sent me the DECLARATION FOR IMPORTATION OR EXPORTATION OF Fish or WILDLIFE form and also have the PERMIT APPLICATION
CONDITIONAL/PROHIBITED/NONNATIVE SPECIES FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION COMMISSION form.
I explained what I had and they said there would be no issues at all crossing into the U.S. or even into Florida.

by nyleveiam Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:22 am

I understand the process is way, way different for "pet" fish vs. importation for resale purposes. Much easier.

by Sandman1969 Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:50 am

I explained they were pets & not for sale & they still had no issues.
All I need to do is make sure I have these 2 forms ready.

by GaryE Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:11 am

Wow. The local fish and wildlife will not allow me to give one pair of killies to a friend in Vermont, without $235 in permits. I hope it is different for you - maybe the fact you are going there to live helps and changes the game.
My difficulties may come with leaving gifts in the US.

by Sandman1969 Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:21 am

I think that is what it may be. Sounds about right.
When I was on the phone with them last year, no fees were ever mentioned to me.

by nyleveiam Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:36 am

Gary. If it were me, they would be in my thermos in with my lunch!!!!

by l_l_l Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:59 am

best way to ship them is to actually go overboard in a car with them..
Easier said than done.

by GaryE Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:51 am

In your thermos... if you get caught - your car gets dismantled and you get the full search every time you cross after - my wife would kill me.

I crossed a couple of summers ago alone and the US guard told me where my wife and kids sit in the car, named them and gave their ages while asking about where they were. You don't mess with the US border. Those computers, cameras and facial recognition programs never forget.

by l_l_l Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:25 am

So young, so innocent.
But can't you simply declare the fish and bring them in with you?

by Sandman1969 Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:30 pm

l_l_l wrote:best way to ship them is to actually go overboard in a car with them..
Easier said than done.

That's a long **** drive from London ON to Tallahassee though. Plus, I don't think I'll be using my truck since it has a loan on it & TD won't let me.

by alexmtl Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:33 pm

Sandman1969 wrote:Gary & Alex, I had talked to the U.S. Fish & Wildlife service and they sent me the DECLARATION FOR IMPORTATION OR EXPORTATION OF Fish or WILDLIFE form and also have the PERMIT APPLICATION
CONDITIONAL/PROHIBITED/NONNATIVE SPECIES FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION COMMISSION form.
I explained what I had and they said there would be no issues at all crossing into the U.S. or even into Florida.

Wow. Great news Sandman !