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Post by Shell on Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:49 pm

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I responded to an ad on Kijij for cory catfish. She said that she has eight, at least, cory catfish (I.e. Maybe more, maybe less), some are bronze, and others are albino. I think these guys will do well in our 20 gallon long guppy tank. It has sand substrate. Just sharing the news. I do hope everything works out and I can pick them up tomorrow. I have to drive about 45 minutes to an hour to get to them. We do have a styrofoam box to put them in, hopefully that will help with the heat reduction.  Very Happy 

These cories are much bigger than the guppies. As far as I know, cories are very peaceful though. Our panda cory, Callie, is extremely peaceful! I think there is no reason to be concerned though, right?

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Re: New tank mates for the guppies

Post by Shell on Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:51 am

@alexmtl wrote:Actually, full of eggs. She is well conditioned and could probably spawn by the looks of it. Two weeks of conditioning with blackworms and a cool water change would trigger it.

Maybe more babies? Yay!  cheers 

Unfortunately, there are a ton of snails in there....so, I'd have to catch her in the act and get the eggs out fast. I'll have to get something ready, just in case!

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Re: New tank mates for the guppies

Post by Biulu on Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:09 am

A breeding net that you can hang in the flow of the filter would do for hatching the eggs. Look for eggs on the glass and under leaves when she is slimmer the next morning.
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Re: New tank mates for the guppies

Post by alexmtl on Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:13 am

@Shell wrote:Maybe more babies? Yay!  cheers 

Unfortunately, there are a ton of snails in there....so, I'd have to catch her in the act and get the eggs out fast. I'll have to get something ready, just in case!

There will be a flurry of activity. The males with be very active surrounding the female(s). The female will swim around the tank searching for suitable egg deposit spots. The males will place the spawn into the mouth of the female and she will "mouth" the egg as she places it. Spawning takes a few hours, usually in the morning as rain "cool water" and dark to low light initiate the behaviour. That has been my experience in the past.
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Re: New tank mates for the guppies

Post by guppyguy on Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:27 am

Awesome healthy corys you have there. And corys are long lived too. I have had my school of paleatus for years. And I have a relative who had some aeneus corys for 10 years.  Fishbowl 

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Re: New tank mates for the guppies

Post by Shell on Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:21 pm

Thanks everyone! I will keep my eye out for breeding behaviour. As for the mop, will I just make that with yarn? I have never made one before, and I have never seen them in shops.  Smile 

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Re: New tank mates for the guppies

Post by goldfishbetalover on Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:13 pm

@Shell wrote:I responded to an ad on Kijij for cory catfish. She said that she has eight, at least, cory  catfish (I.e. Maybe more, maybe less), some are bronze, and others are albino.  I think these guys will do well in our 20 gallon long guppy tank. It has sand substrate. Just sharing the news. I do hope everything works out and I can pick them up tomorrow. I have to drive about 45 minutes to an hour to get to them. We do have a styrofoam box to put them in, hopefully that will help with the heat reduction.  Very Happy 

These cories are much bigger than the guppies. As far as I know, cories are very peaceful though. Our panda cory, Callie, is extremely peaceful! I think there is no reason to be concerned though, right?
love that you id this!!!!
yippee for you!
and the beautiful fish!
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Re: New tank mates for the guppies

Post by Shell on Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:15 pm

@goldfishbetalover wrote:
love that you id this!!!!
yippee for you!
and the beautiful fish!

I too am happy that I made this decision, hubby was not home, he was away on training, and so I acted on my own.   Smile 

When hubby returned, he was thrilled! I think he has bonded with the loaches for sure! And we both had a laugh watching the cories  Very Happy 

Keep your fingers crossed that all works out for all 13 fish! 5 of which were not expected!

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Re: New tank mates for the guppies

Post by Biulu on Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:04 pm

Yes, just use yarn. Google it and you will find how to do it. It is very easy.
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Re: New tank mates for the guppies

Post by goldfishbetalover on Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:03 am

@Shell wrote:
@goldfishbetalover wrote:
love that you id this!!!!
yippee for you!
and the beautiful fish!

I too am happy that I made this decision, hubby was not home, he was away on training, and so I acted on my own.   Smile 

When hubby returned, he was thrilled! I think he has bonded with the loaches for sure! And we both had a laugh watching the cories  Very Happy 

Keep your fingers crossed that all works out for all 13 fish! 5 of which were not expected!
FINGER CROSSED...!!!!
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Re: New tank mates for the guppies

Post by Shell on Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:50 am

Well, I picked up yarn last night and the plan was to make the mop today and put it in after the water change....too late! Got up this morning and they were going crazy attaching eggs - now the tank glass is covered in eggs! Unfortunately, I know the snails will eat them, so I'm pretty sad  Crying or Very sad I was able to scrape a few off of the glass and I put them on a moss ball, poked a string through it, and then hung the moss ball under the filter outflow - maybe I'll save a few...but I was pretty shaky doing this, and so it likely will not work! I also cut off a leaf from one of the plants that had a few eggs attached, hung it in the same place.

The eggs look pretty white, as you can see in the pic, does this mean that they are not fertilized, or does it take time for them to darken up?




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Re: New tank mates for the guppies

Post by Biulu on Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:52 am

Wow, that is a good bunch of eggs! If you have a breeder net or similar and hang it under the filter outflow you will have more success as no other fish/snails can reach the eggs that way.
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Post by alexmtl on Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:14 am

@Shell wrote:
The eggs look pretty white, as you can see in the pic, does this mean that they are not fertilized, or does it take time for them to darken up?

Hey congratulations ! Looks like you have a breeding colony of cories ! So the eary morning hours and probably a recent water change got them going  Shocked 

I put some antifungus meds into the container that I put the eggs into. I gave the eggs are few days to see which ones fungused and which kept developing. Like you I used a razor blade to scrape off the eggs. You may want to put the cories into a large tupperware container, with long runs to have them continue their breeding, and then you can take them out when they are done.

Good job and good luck !!!
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Post by Shell on Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:54 am

That is only one bunch of eggs in the pic - there are at least 6 other bunches like that and they are still laying eggs!

I just took a video of Big Momma laying eggs....will post it as soon as I upload it!  Very Happy

Today is WC day...should we hold off on changing their water?

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Post by alexmtl on Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:59 am

@Shell wrote:Today is WC day...should we hold off on changing their water?

Like I said, the female was "ripe"  Laughing 

I would keep going with the eater change, it was keep the spawning going, (my opinion) and reduce the fungus load in the water.  As well fter spawning the cories may eat their own eggs so remove as soon as you can. Good luck ! You are now a corydoras breeder
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Post by Shell on Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:38 pm

@alexmtl wrote:Like I said, the female was "ripe"  Laughing 

Yup - you sure called it!!!!!!!

I wish we were more prepared for this - I've been searching for a decent container to put a leaf or two in with a bubbler....also had to look for some tubing. I have the betta box that Belle was living in before we took her in - might try that. I do hope they lay more eggs in the future so I can get this mop made and have a better plan!!

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Post by goldfishbetalover on Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:04 am

how exciting!
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Post by goldfishbetalover on Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:05 am

and nerve wrecking at the same time!
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Post by Shell on Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:23 pm

@goldfishbetalover wrote:and nerve wrecking at the same time!

Nerve-wrecking is right! I have been pulling snails off of leaves ever since she laid the eggs!! At least the snails can't get to the leaf and moss ball hanging from the filter!

On a different note (and I realize that I have gone slightly off-topic here with regard to the original topic, but hey, I am curious!) - can anyone help me out with regard to whether or not these eggs are fertile? I am just too impatient and eager to know!  It is odd, but many of the eggs differ in appearance today. I tried to get pics with the iPad:

Here are some of the eggs on the leaf that is not hanging from the filter - some are solid white, while others are clear with a white spot in each:



Now these ones, on the other side of that leaf, are also a mix of solid white and clear, but the clear ones have more of an amber spot in each:



The eggs on the moss ball are hard to see as they are in behind, so I am unable to get a good shot (or really even see them myself for that matter!). But, this is the leaf that is hanging from the filter getting direct flow. It was really hard to capture as it is constantly moving around. These eggs are more of an amber/tan colour with a brownish spot in each:



None "appear" to have any fungus, but then again, I can't be certain. Any thoughts on the differences in appearance of these eggs?

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Post by Biulu on Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:28 pm

If you see a darker spot in them, they are definitively fertile as that is the embryo that is developing. If you take a close look you should be able to see a small line (at the limit of the egg) curled, which is the body/tail.
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Post by Shell on Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:37 pm

@Biulu wrote:If you see a darker spot in them, they are definitively fertile as that is the embryo that is developing. If you take a close look you should be able to see a small line (at the limit of the egg) curled, which is the body/tail.

Thanks Biulu! Unfortunately, only a few seem to have the dark spot - the majority appear to be solid white. I just took a peak and I am unable to see a small line in any....maybe I'm just missing it. Sigh - maybe these eggs will not turn into cute little babies...just gotta wait and see, I suppose! I have read online that the time-frame is about 3-5 days. I assume if nothing has happened by then, I should remove them?

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Post by Biulu on Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:19 pm

If they don't hatch put them in the tank for the fish to eat. It is a good protein source.
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Post by Shell on Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:23 pm

@Biulu wrote:If they don't hatch put them in the tank for the fish to eat. It is a good protein source.

Thanks Biulu - they are still in the tank with everyone as I could not find an extension for a bubbler...we are taking our chances! So far so good - the eggs on the leaves and moss ball are still intact! We'll see what happens.....

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Post by goldfishbetalover on Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:40 pm

incredible to see these photos for sure!
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Post by CAAIndie on Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:00 pm

I really hope you end up with some fry Shell.

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Post by hello_rockview12 on Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:29 am

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